Question:
2005 Ford Five-Hundred with a Limp Home Mode issue...?
anonymous
2008-01-23 13:45:04 UTC
I had posted this questions/scenerio previously, and had some great posts...but I guess I have to repost it to answer some of the questions. The engine light and "wrench" light are both on. The only error codes are for the EGR Valve (which I replaced and resolve the error code for that). However, everytime my car is warm (normal) and it idles below 800 rpms for more than 10 seconds, it goes into limp home mode. (CVT Transmission). I put it in neutral, turn the car off then turn it on again...and hit the gas and I am fine. So there is my stupid a$$ revving the car in neutral at every stop light. The local Ford Dealer looked at it twice and only saw those two codes over and over...now only the Limp Home Mode code with no reason why. They told me $5450 to replace the Transmission and that is all I can do. I have 59K miles on it and no warranty remaining. If I am not in Limp Home Mode...it runs great...I don't believe that the Tranny needs replaced..or I would have other symptoms
Three answers:
anonymous
2008-01-23 16:33:09 UTC
I'd look into this TSB...

TSB 07-2-2



02/05/07



WRENCH LIGHT ON-NO DTCS AND/OR U0401



FORD:

2005-2007 Five Hundred, Freestyle



MERCURY:

2005-2007 Montego



ISSUE

Some 2005-2007 Freestyle, Five Hundred and Montego vehicles may exhibit intermittent wrench light on and/or "ETC-failsafe mode" in the message center with no diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs), or a U0401 code in the transmission control module (1CM) of vehicles equipped with a continuously variable transaxle (CVI).



This may be the result of the following: if an intermittent condition that illuminates the wrench light occurs during one drive cycle but does not repeat during the subsequent drive cycle, the powertrain control module (PCM)/TCM software strategy will not store the code in the PCM during the subsequent drive cycle but will instead erase the pending code.



ACTION

Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.



SERVICE PROCEDURE



1. Pull DTCs from PCM, 1CM modules and instrument cluster (IC).



NOTE IF ANY CODES, OTHER THAN U0401 ARE IN PCM/TCM/IC MODULES, DO NOT CONTINUE WITH THIS TSB. PERFORM NORMAL DIAGNOSIS PER WORKSHOP MANUAL OR POWERTRAIN CONTROLS/EMISSIONS DIAGNOSIS (PC/ED).



2. Check for main engine harness to PCM (12B637 - Engineering / 12A581 - Service) rub through on the A/C line and on the back right of engine compartment. If rub through is found, repair wires in harness.



3. Pull electronic throttle control (ETC) freeze frame (FF) and follow recommendation below.





Pull ETC FF:



NOTE VCM (IDS/PDS) MUST BE UPDATED TO SOFTWARE VERSION VCM 2007.1 (IDS/PDS 47.0) OR LATER SOFTWARE LEVEL. FOR 2007.1 (IDS/PDS 47.0), IT IS ALSO REQUIRED TO DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL THE LATEST PATCH.



1. Connect IDS/PDS to vehicle.



2. Open new IDS/PDS session.



3. Select tab.



^ IDS - Toolbox



^ PDS - All Tests and Calibrations





4. IDS Only - Select Powertrain.



5. Select ETC.



6. Follow on screen directions, review results and perform recommended action below.



NOTE DUE TO THE INTERMITTENT NATURE OF CONCERN, THE MOST LIKELY COMPONENT IS RECOMMENDED FOR SERVICE. WIRING ISSUES, INCLUDING CONNECTOR AND/OR PIN ISSUES MAY ALSO CAUSE CONCERN.



7. On the IDS screen and next to the line IPC DIAGNOSTIC CODE A does a fault exist which is indicated by a one (1) in any location on the line in place of zero (0)?

















a. Yes - fault identified, follow recommendation below based on the IDS Repair Direction Results window response. No further analysis is needed.



b. No - go to Step 8.



8. Does IDS screen line ETC FAULT FLAGS indicate a fault (one (1) in any location on line in place of zero (0))?

















a. Yes - fault identified, follow recommendation below. No further analysis is needed.



b. No - go to Step 9.



9. Does IDS screen line E-QUIZZER DIAGNOSTIC STATE indicate a fault (one (1) in any location on line in place of zero (0))?

















a. Yes - fault identified, follow recommendation below. No further analysis is needed.



b. No-Go to Step 10.



10. Does IDS screen line DESIRED LOAD compared to LOAD indicate a fault (difference is greater then 0.03)?



a. Yes - refer to PC/ED for MAF, ECT, ACT and TP diagnosis.



b. No - go to Step 11.





11. Does IDS screen line MEASURED THROTTLE ANGLE compared to DESIRED THROTTLE ANGLE indicate a fault (difference is greater then 5 degrees)?



a. Yes - replace ETB.



b. No - go to Step 12.





12. If IDS screen line ETC FF is blank (all zeros).



a. Data may be erased by battery or PCM disconnect.



b. If both TCM and ETC FF are blank - replace ETB.







WARRANTY STATUS: Information Only



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jefferis
2016-12-03 01:22:11 UTC
ok how did changing a EGR reason a limp domicile mode?!?!?!?!??! without greater advice, i won't be able to offer help to which includes codes and such. yet a EGR won't placed IT INTO LIMP domicile MODE!!!! in basic terms time this automobile will limp house is that if it won't be able to replace greater suitable than one sensor, the transmission has massive time mess ups, or the digital throttle physique sends out a errors code (and defaults to a idle in basic terms approach) Disconnecting the battery and reconnecting it might sparkling the codes when you get the codes that made you alter the EGR interior the 1st place... yet i haven't considered too many of the 500s have themes. additionally without applicable diagnosis, you may % a throttle physique greater suitable than a transmission (which limps to a 2d kit in basic terms approach)
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2014-06-24 23:57:37 UTC
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