Question:
Will this service help my vehicle?
Everlasting
2013-10-25 20:39:49 UTC
Will having an Fuel System Service at Pugh's do any good for my vehicle that is running rich?

I've changed my Fuel Pressure Regulator, Fuel Filter, Coolant Temperature Sensor, Intake Air Charge Sensor, Air Filter, and nothing has changed. I didn't change my O2 Sensor because I'm tired of dishing out cash for parts that are good and I have no idea were my EGR Valve is so I could have that checked.
Seven answers:
Chris
2013-10-25 20:48:26 UTC
Running rich can be a mechanic breakdown of the actual injectors not able to meter the gas properly.



The 02 sensors being bad could cause the ECU to overcompensate with more pulses to the injectors so they flow more gas causing the rich condition.



The EGR valve wouldnt cause a rich condition, it would make the car either fail smog by not opening or cause the engine to run rough and die if it was stuck open.



This may be a good one to take and have a diagnostic ran at a shop to check the sensor outputs.



Good Luck :)
Paul E.
2013-10-26 04:06:48 UTC
It can be a good idea to flush injectors to keep the tips clean and allow them a nice conical spray pattern for better fuel atomization and mixture in the cylinders .

This is critical for proper combustion process in the cylinders which will go to the catalytic convertors to be reduced into less harmful gases such as carbon dioxide and water.

Your system is running rich. Your oxygen sensor is reporting this to the computer.

Possible you have an air leak in the intake system that is allowing air into the engine without being measured by the airflow sensor which affect fuel injection. This is called a false air signal. You may have an intake gasket leak or air intake hose that is cracked. Maybe even a throttle body gasket that is leaking. Even a crack in the exhaust can cause this problem. Check these to make sure they are not leaking.

Finally, you may have a failing oxygen sensor above the catalytic convertor that cannot relate the correct information of the contents of oxygen in the exhaust to the computer. You can check this with a scanner that has the capability of using graphs to check the operation of the upper and lower oxygen sensors. If the upper sensor shows a flat line, then the sensor is probably bad and should be replaced.

The rear sensor is usually flat which is normal, reduced gasses at a normal level going out to the muffler.

An EGR valve you mentioned is only used to reduce combustion chamber temperature to prevent nitrate of oxygen ( NOx ) by redirecting exhaust gases back into the cylinder to lower temperatures. You may or may not have an EGR valve as modern engines using computers do not require the valves, unlike the old days of carbs and high emissions. Smog.

If you decide to replace the upper 02 sensor, use one from a dealer and not an aftermarket will-fit. They are a waste of money from the beginning and you eventually end up buying the correct one anyway.

Sorry for the long-winded lesson about fuel injection and emissions.
thebax2006
2013-10-26 13:10:55 UTC
To spend all that money on parts with out having them checked first is pretty dumb. The first thing you should have done is get the engine data read by a mechanic that has a scan tool. Not an OBD II code reader. The data shows what each sensor is sending to the computer and it's easy to compare it to normal reading specifications. No guessing! If you're running rich it shows up in the fuel trim readings. Just wondering how you decided your motor is running rich if you have not had the fuel trim readings checked yet. Looks like you want to play mechanic but have no clue! You don't need to know where the EGR valve is "so I could have it checked". The mechanic will know where it is!
Humveetech
2013-10-26 05:02:17 UTC
NO, a fuel induction cleaning will do nothing for a rich condition & no on the oil leak. It isn't pulling in more air, its burning too much fuel. Vacuum leaks only cause lean conditions, never a rich condition.



Could be fuel pressure too high, return fuel line restricted causing high fuel pressure. Leaking injectors. I suggest you throw in the towel & take it to the nearest Ford dealership & let them look at it. Sometimes it does require a few special tools & a good experience technician to have a run at it



Also, CHRIS above is correct on the EGR valve. If it were stuck open, your truck wouldn't idle at all ,will keep dying. A stuck closed EGR only fails emissions, not cause a rich condition
Harley Drive
2013-10-26 04:11:55 UTC
1) how do you know it is running rich 2) the only way that could happen normally is if the car is running either the cold start program which happens if you fit a cold air intake, or the temperature sensor is faulty or the wrong one, if a cold air intake has been fitted with an oiled filter the oil can wreck the MAF and then anything could happen
Joseph C
2013-10-26 04:38:32 UTC
Have the code's checked.

I usually go to Auto Zone & they do it for free.
?
2013-10-26 05:26:52 UTC
None whatsoever.


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