Question:
I bought a used engine with a 2 month warranty on it, and the motor blew, now they say i have to pay for labor?
anonymous
2009-02-24 06:56:45 UTC
they saying i have to pay $300 in labor, is that fair? Isn't it their fault for giving me a bad motor and shouldn't they put it in for free since they gave me this bad motor that threw a rod 1 month later and had a oil leak due to them using silicone to put my valve covers on instead of screwing them down like normal mechanics and leaving my check engine light on too?
Ten answers:
bandit_60
2009-02-24 08:35:24 UTC
the warranty was just on the motor, not the labor of putting it in so they probably will make the motor right but they will charge you for putting it in. $300.00 is a steal for putting a motor in and getting it running.
Steve
2009-02-24 07:14:46 UTC
Everyone is getting this one wrong, that's what happens when you ask a legal question in the car repair section.



This is about liability, not about warranty.



Everyone is missing the obvious. I agree with the answers that the labor wouldn't be covered under warranty unless it specifically stated it was covered in the warranty paperwork. Here's the issue, THE ENGINE FAILED BECAUSE OF THEIR INSTALL. The fact is that the company that made the engine might not, let me change that to probably won't, even cover the warranty due to the silly silicone valve cover job. Even if the engine had zero warranty, the shop would have to cover the repair. Even if the shop just did a valve cover on your engine and that caused the oil to leak out, they'd owe you for a new engine, less depreciation. This isn't any different than taking your car in for an oil change and finding out they forgot to put the oil filter in after your engine conked out.



If it's really because they used silicone instead of bolting them down like normal then the failure is due to their work. They'd owe you for a new engine if the engine didn't have a warranty.



That being said, I can't believe anyone would try to use silicone to put a valve cover on a car. It bolts to the head of the engine and that gets very hot while the engine runs. As you've found out, silicone doesn't like heat. If that's actually what this shop did, I wouldn't trust them changing the oil, let alone changing the engine.



If they're not willing to cover the labor I think your best bet to get your car back will be to pay the $300 then take them to court to get the money back. Get good pictures of the silicone that was on the valve cover and it will be a very easy case. You'll just have to go to your local court house and ask what paperwork you need to file a case in small claims court. Don't worry, it's easy, and with your good pictures of why the engine failed, you can't lose. Just by the by, they'll also be responsible for your court filing fees when you win, it's only about $30, but they'll still have to pay you back for it.
anonymous
2009-02-24 07:09:37 UTC
Unfortunately, they get you on the labor. No one is going to work for free- They didn't warranty the actual installation of the motor, just the motor itself. That is the price you pay when buying a used motor.

Was it a junk yard motor, or one that a mechanics shop had "lying around"? Also, the check engine light is simply an oxygen sensor, its not a signal that the engine is going to blow. That's why you have an oil level dipstick. The damn thing must have been pouring oil.. to leak so bad it blew it in 4 weeks.





EDIT

They are going to warranty the motor, they are just not going to install it for free. Seems reasonable to me. Without knowing where the engine came from, it's not an easy question to answer.
bondservant70x7
2009-02-24 07:09:29 UTC
I sympathize with you but, you have to pay for the labor costs. The engine is free while under warranty but, the labor isn't covered under any warranty, regardless of who is at fault.



If you could prove that it was their fault for using inferior parts to fix the oil leak, you could take them to court. Good luck with that.



I would pay the $300 and move on.
kevusaborn
2009-02-24 07:09:25 UTC
First of all $ 300.00 is not a bad price if the shop is going to

replace that engine with another one.



But here's another thing. Didn't you notice oil spewing all over

from the valve cover. It must have made some smoke.



Leaving that engine light on when they gave it to you was wrong

and based on that fact. They should repair it. And at no charge.

But, you were not blindsided here. You must have known something

was wrong and allowed it to progress.



Good Luck on the fix.
LeAnne
2009-02-24 07:09:26 UTC
Unfortunately, often times a "warranty" is "limited" - usually to cover the replacement part(s) and labor for a certain period and then only the part(s) after that. But it could also only cover the parts replacement - much like Midas' famous life time mufflers.

Did you get anything in writing? If not (and it's frustrating and certainly not fair) but you'll probably end up paying the labor to replace it.
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?
2009-02-24 07:09:33 UTC
Pay for the labor dude, you still have to get that fixed and if you go somewhere else it will cost you labor and parts. Think about it.
anonymous
2009-02-24 07:11:08 UTC
LeAnne provided the only suitable answer. Refer to the documentation, that's the only source of correct information you have at your disposal.
puddintain
2009-02-24 07:14:12 UTC
No, If you knew the engine had problems you shouldn't have bought it. buying used is "as is" . you only bought someone else's problems


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